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Bullet 6:05 Thu Sep 4
Calais ferry stormed by ahem tourists?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2743136/Hundreds-migrants-storm-P-O-ferry-Calais-bid-Britain.html

French threaten to close Calais Port?

Hammer and Pickle 10:49 Sun Sep 7
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That's a good political point Annony.

But you and I know the problem is structural and its well known solution involves unpopular decisions that, in the short term, would be unpleasant for some very rich and nasty people all around this continent.

Annony 12:47 Sun Sep 7
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Wittell, fact is that UK governments want them, Blairs open door policy started mass immigration, other government since have tried to close the door, but lack the balls do shut it completely as the do not now want to lose the immigrant vote.

Someone needs to step up and shut that door, Larry Grayson was all talk and Enoch Powell is sadly no longer with us.

Hammer and Pickle 12:41 Sun Sep 7
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200 ways of stopping illegal immigration by messing up your dynamic job market just because you've got the hump about the real world.

Willtell 12:28 Sun Sep 7
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These illegals come in around Marseille across the Mediterranean. It's a French problem that gets dumped on Calais as the illegals make their way through France to get to Britain. France won't do for them. They don't have any jobs for the French and don't pay benefits unless you contribute to the system it is a bureaucratic nightmare to get onto in the first place.

The Mayor of Calais blames Britain and to a certain extent she is right. Stop making it so easy and they will stop coming...

Vote UKIP....

Annony 12:25 Sun Sep 7
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twoleftfeet 11:06 Sun Sep 7

I don't get it, why would you put up a new wall in Berlin, it took them years to rip it down?

Hammer and Pickle 11:59 Sun Sep 7
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It has to be said, however, that blaming somebody else as a political expedient is hardly a French speciality on the menu of populism.

ludo21 11:50 Sun Sep 7
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Thank god for the English Channel... just imagine how many more there would be without it!

Willtell 11:40 Sun Sep 7
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You're spot on mashed. If they had French passports they could come in to UK but they don't. They are illegal immigrants into France. It's a French problem and the Mayor of Calais that leaps up and down and calls us names, is just a typically arrogant French person blaming someone else for their failings as a political expedient....

mashed in maryland 11:08 Sun Sep 7
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The massive irony is of course that if these people had French passports they'd be allowed in no matter what.

Vote in UKIP, however, and the policy would be a lot less racist.

Makes you think.

twoleftfeet 11:06 Sun Sep 7
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Put up a wall and man it with British troops with the understanding that they shoot to kill.

The new Berlin Wall.

None of these refugees are fleeing persecution,they are economic migrants.

Willtell 10:26 Sun Sep 7
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That's pretty much as I see France too Hammer and Pickle. A Brit pal of mine works for a French company in UK and France. They are a very big company but have been losing money for years.

Their owners are all French and tried to change the employment contracts and reduce wages but the unions just went on strike. When I asked my mate (who is a middle manager) why the workers thought striking would help a loss making company he explained "The workers know the French government won't let them fail because they are too big and new owners will be found and more money will be pumped in...."

Shades of 1970's Britain....

mega-supa 10:25 Sun Sep 7
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England is the best country in the world


They all want to come here don't they

Hammer and Pickle 10:19 Sun Sep 7
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I thought it was because the French labour market has been turned into one great fossilised monolith of unbreakable long-term contracts, thirteenth salaries and free lunches, creating pretty much useless admin jobs for the lucky few and a generally under-employed, under-motivated and largely disgruntled labour force.
See, business is actively discouraged from investing by the idiotic socialist redistributive fiscal regime and now that they are part of the Euro, they cant inflate their way out of the fuck up they're in but they can't be arsed to get their head down, accept flexible terms of employment and get on with working for real money like the Germans, Poles and the Brits (largely). See, someone has convinced the French they have the right to money just because they are French, and this is where it has got them.
But hey, what do I know, I'm just a fucking sociologist who happens to go there on holiday a bit and chat to French business people.

Willtell 10:04 Sun Sep 7
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Not sure mashed. I know their education system in the South West where I live is very good and definitely better than UK's.

I spoke to some English teenagers the other day. They came out here not speaking French and they say they had to learn quickly because if they fall behind they are held back and have to resit the year again with younger kids.

As for over qualified people, UK is headed that way too. Fact is there are fewer jobs in the world that needs qualified people. It wouldn't surprise me though mashed. The French have arrogance but so do Brits. Thing is I kind of think we Brits earned the right to a national arrogance while the French didn't.

They are perpetual losers but still cling to this belief that their way is the only way for the world while their economy crumbles with stagnation and millions of well educated kids work in McDonalds...

mashed in maryland 7:40 Sun Sep 7
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Willtell; read an article once about how when it comes to being overqualified and having useless redundant degrees etc., France overtakes us by a million miles, and it's normal for people to have 2-3 degrees and be in their late 20s and unemployed or working part time in supermarkets etc.

Any truth in this?

Hammer and Pickle 12:03 Sun Sep 7
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*stares stupefied*

SHORTYHAMMER 11:22 Sat Sep 6
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More fekin Muslims tryin to get over here!.. Welcome to Londonistan...... Enough with this scum . They bring nothing to society except a stone age religion and hate

Thunderlips 11:39 Sat Sep 6
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http://www.britainfirst.org

Willtell 9:28 Sat Sep 6
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In summary I meant to add that immigrants just don't stand a chance of a helping hand in France from officials. They encourage staff to be unhelpful I am certain. In politically correct Britain we go out of our way to help people from abroad and it's a joke.

Walk into a French hospital and ask for treatment. If you don't have the right documentation, pay cash up front or forget it. I read the other day that only now are the NHS starting to ask for identification of entitlement but it is still not obligatory on the hospital staff to do that.

Then you wonder why the NHS is always skint and unable to treat Brits with serious illnesses....

Willtell 9:20 Sat Sep 6
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HairySpotter 1:17
Yes mate. The thing is that the French bureaucracy is so useless that it takes years to sort out things that Britain seems to be able to do in days.

Examples: my neighbour's partner is 62 and in her younger days she married a Dutch bloke and lived and worked in Holland for 35 years. She divorced him about 20 years ago and later met my neighbour about 10 years ago. She returned to France and then needed to register for medical and her pension in France. It took her more than 2 years as a born in France French lady!

I helped my neighbour for a few weeks every year by tractor driving for him at harvest time and he insisted on paying me minimum wages officially because they don't do "The Black" as they call it. That registered me with the French health system which I was already on but, a special society that took care of agricultural workers.

That was fine but when he employed an assistant full time and didn't need me, I had to register back with the normal health system for immigrants! When the agricultural lot took my file they registered me with no input from me because they were taking tax off me.

But going back into the regular immigrant system, I had to completely re-apply again. Not only that but I had to get - wait for this - my birth certificate and marriage certificate etc translated into French by an official organisation. Like the dates are exactly the same in French but it does slow everything up.....

It finally took several trips to their offices, queueing for ages and a total of 9 months to get my file moved from the agricultural health system to the immigrants health system! Now can you imaging how much fun it would be for an African that probably can't write very well, may not be french speaking and then applying to his country for proof of who he is etc. to enable him/her to get onto the French system?

When I go onto HMR&C website they offer lots of documentation in different languages. One from I needed the other day offered Arabic, German, French, Italian and Polish I think it was. In France every form is in French and only French. End of.

Bureaucracy invades every form of French life because 55% of France works either directly or indirectly (health, education etc) for the government. For comparison I seem to remember that the present government of UK are trying to get our government employees down to 35%.

My village of a few hundred people has its own mayor with 2 staff, a newly refurbished office, a school for about 25 kids of varying ages and higher achievement rates that you would only dream about in England. Every roadside in every lane gets grass cut a few times a year. Roundabouts are beautiful works of art and every Bastille Day we get a fantastic firework display and all towns do a lot to encourage tourism.

And of course the people are actually friendly, welcoming, polite and always introduce themselves at gatherings unlike UK where we definitely are stand offish by comparison.

jfk 8:51 Sat Sep 6
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Righto

Anyway, I'm off over south Weald with the hound.

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